Monday, October 10, 2011

TTruthseeker (Wend News | Coinage Occup Delusions); Feral Scholar (Practicing), GoodBad Jesuit (2 Jesuits), Russia (RU Fed Weekly Report)






TTruthseeker: Weekend News


At 03:19, Andrea Muhrrteyn said...

Tim:

What on earth is "Marian veneration, Marian apparition"? Is that something to do with Mary?

The Pope to resign? Good heavens. Why? Because of prophecy? I don't understand all this attachment to prophecy stuff. If a prophecy is based on scientific laws, I can understand, but all these other prophecy kind of stuff is very strange to me. I don't know what to make of it, or why people are so attached to it. Anyway, maybe you can explain.


At 05:49 , Timothy said...

Marian veneration=worshipping Mary

Marian apparition=a belief of seeing spiritual images of Mary.


At 06:51 , Andrea Muhrrteyn said...

Tim:

What are 'spiritual images of Mary'?

Sort of like UFOlogists consider those strange things in fields to be UFO spiritual images?

Mary is dead. Far as I know she must have died thousand plus years ago. If you talking about Mary Magdalene, Jesus alleged mother or some say wife or whatever. I don't know that story well. I am not an expert on Bible stories. I just took from the Bible principles of honour and integrity. Such lessons. Beyond that I just think it is a book, compiled by men, who knew the value of organized religion as a means to gain power. Thats my working hypothesis anyway. They say there were many things Jesus said, that never made it into the Bible; so why not? Its just a minefield going there, cause people who have attached their entire ego identities to such stories, are not able or willing to investigate or discard ideas they wish were true.

Unlike Timothy McVeigh; he ain't dead! I'd like to see him in real life, that would be a spiritual experience for me! ;-) I'd be happy to say it isn't true, but a man I highly respect, who was one of the most honest men I ever met; told me to my face: his friend McVeigh was alive.

Anyway. Wierd, wierd world we live in, ain't it? A world of humans who pride themselves on being human because of their cognitive abilities, and do anything but use them. Are logic and reason wasted on humans, or just hijacked by fragile insecurity ego memes?

What images do you want to see? And would you rather see the image of something, or the real thing?


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At 06:07, Andrea Muhrrteyn said...

Tragic and Sad. More bandaids and asprins for their 'we ain't got any critical thinking root cause problem solving skills' braintumours.

Of course if you got critical thinking root cause problem solving skills; it helps if you are capable of implementing those principles practically in your own life.

How many of those protestors are OUT OF DEBT?

How many consider honest and honourable relationships important enough to practice such with their colleagues?

How many consider fully informed consent agreements important; and how many don't even have a fully informed consent agreement with their most intimate partner: wife or husband; let alone children, family members or work colleagues.

Reminds me of the SA Kaffir Intelligence Agent Official in the Ministry of Intelligence Officers at SA Parliament when I dropped off some documents for the NIA from the Pentagon; and he said "Eish: who is the Pentagon?"

The Psychotronic Gods must be crazy; cause they are putting on a funny show! ;-)


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Feral Scholar: Practicing

Well, well; what a surprise! Blow me over with a feather! Or as Kristol would say 'mugged by reality'. I been thought-speechless for a response, but decided today was the day. How else to honour a modern day Paul Kruger?

I must say I'd almost given up on [XR] TigerSkullValleyMtns ~ BearSnakeHorseBay; sharing with me his kinesthetic simple language knowingness about sex and war.

Radical Honesty culture theory and practice teaches that joy is one of the most feared emotions. I am not talking about fake joy, that we substitute for the real thing. Fake joy of consumerism being an excellent example of the use of psychology to manipulate the citizens subconscious for corporate profits. Brad's thoughts is that we fear real in your gut joy: by that I mean striving for something with a huge amount of purpose and thinking it can never happen, and then it does; because we subconsciously know that if we do accomplish that joy high; like a rollercoaster, it is accompanied by depth of lows.

So we avoid experiencing, really in our being, the highs of joy and sorrow and pain, because they are so painful; and instead simply get on the kiddies rollercoaster, where we have fake highs and fake lows, for which we can proscribe some pill, and so for the most part we are 'stable'.

I had this Jewish professor friend: I luved him allot. He taught me so much. He was afraid of many things, but not joy or sorrow. He was a Professor; and yet he would on many days be so overcome with childlike joy, he would put on his huge angel wings, and wander downtown with me; or take me to tea or a drink. When his wife died, he would not cry with pain, but howl, with sad classical music and cry and cry and sob and sob. It was painful to hear; but he knew as a good psychologist he had to let himself feel his pain.

Brad would say that is was because he was capable of experiencing his pain, his sorry, feeling it to the fullest and not hiding it, or trying to be tough; that he was able to experience the other extreme's of his emotions; such as his joy.

Thanks Stan.

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Is Fr. Hardon asking a question when he says: "As an objective viewer looks at the modern world, what does he see"?

Or is he saying he considers himself an objective viewer, and the rest of the post his his alleged 'objective' point of view?

I have much sympathy for men and women who become nuns and monks; considering the state of gender relations in the world. But I don't think their attachment to their ideology, and their attachment to fake PR pretence to passively aggressively manipulate conversions, contributes to a reality where they can honestly call themselves capable of being an 'objective viewer of the modern world'.

They could perhaps be an objective Jesuit; but an objective Jesuit, is a very different thing that an objective scientist.

That is not to say that an objective Jesuit's observations may not be accurate in certain aspects; only that in when it comes to true objectivity on any given issue; and scientific objective collides with obedience to jesuit objectivity dogma*; I doubt the jesuit would be able, or willing to follow the path of scientific objectivism. But that is only a working hypothesis and there may be, or have been, such jesuits.

* From the little of what I know about Jesuit history; I don't recall Jesuit dogma to be remotely orientated towards being objective; to the contrary their goals - far as I understand them - were highly catholic ideologically subjective. Defending the catholic faith to the ends of the earth, including any of its errors or possible errors. But then I don't think any of the monotheistic religions are or profess to be remotely focussed on scientific objectivity.

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I would agree with most of your analysis. Strange isn't it that I would say one of the best relationships with Pres. Putin was Pres. Bush. Would you agree?

About the threats of terrorism, drugs and illegal immigration. Agreed. Simplistically, the root causes for two of those being: overpopulation: reproducing above the ecological carrying capacity (a result of ignoring Tragedy of the Commons warnings) and the drugs one being individuals failure to find purpose and meaning; and their desperation to escape from the meaninglessness of life. For that we can thank Edward Bernays, public relations and the Fortune 500's consumerization of existential meaning.

It shall be interesting to see how Mother Nature's Post Peak Oil realities intrude and shape the future.

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