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I agree; but it is not simply White Afrikaners.

White Radical Honesty members also get discriminated against. While white Radical Honesty members stand up for white Afrikaners; white Afrikaners SPIT ON WHITE RADICAL HONESTY MEMBERS WHO UPHOLD WHITE AFRIKANER RIGHTS!

In fact white Afrikaners have ENDORSED THE PERSECUTION OF WHITE RADICAL HONESTY MEMBERS, WHILE WHITE RADICAL HONESTY MEMBERS HAVE STOOD UP FOR WHITE AFRIKANERS.

WHEN DO WHITE AFRIKANERS STAND UP FOR OTHER PEOPLE'S RIGHTS, NOT JUST THEIR OWN?


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Andrea Muhrrteyn said...
Hmmmm, plenty of food for thought, including that link to Black Love is a Revolutionary Act. Fascinating perspectives, not commonly portrayed in the multi-culti liberal 'we love black folk' media.

November 27, 2011 2:30 PM


Andrea Muhrrteyn said...
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Hi Cree,

Fascinating perspectives. Found your blogpost via my friend Timothy's blog.

I notice you use the term white supremacy/racism allot. I do not disagree that 'racism' exists, but from my experience very few provide their definition for the term. Racism being an abstract concept of course has many meanings, unlike concrete terms which are concrete.

In order for me to better understand YOUR definition of racism, which may be totally different to mine, and many others, as may be your definition for 'democracy' or 'feminism' or 'justice' etc; all of which are abstract concepts.

My personal definition for 'racism' is that of Dr. Gedaliah Braun, from his book: Racism, Guilt, Self-Hatred and Self-Deceit.

Namely that facts which are true cannot be 'racist'; only inaccurate opinions can in fact be racist. For example; it is true that Serena Williams is superior to me at tennis, and it may also be true that I am superior to Serena Williams at legal research.

Cultures are superior to other cultures at specific tasks, from playing ping pong, to basketball, to inventions, etc. Stating a fact about one culture's superiour skills at that particular task (of course that does not mean all the people in that culture are superior,only that a bell curve of individuals are) is not racist, if in fact it is a FACT; i.e. TRUE, based upon impartial evidence.

Dr. Braun's definition of racism in effect says, that racism exists in the mind of the individual who refuses to hear new information and evidence, which may prove his/her racial biased views on any particular matter to be incorrect.

Racism is in effect, not what you believe, but how you hold those beliefs in your mind. How you refuse to engage people who may provide you with contrary evidence to your belief; becuase you refuse to consider all evidence to the contrary.

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Secondly, I was fascinated by many perspectives in this blog post, which I imagine you would agree the multiculti (we pretend we love black folk liberal white) media certainly are not sharing on thier airwaves.

I found this statement particularly revealing: "Nevertheless, Umoja and I agree that the single most important thing that black people must do to counter the global SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) is stay very, very far away from the genitals of all white people."

I am curious about how and why black folks who would like to 'counter racism' or 'white supremacy' don't enter into coalitions with white folks, and native americans and others who are active in support of ethno-cultural seccession and self determination.

Racial preference for your own is -- in my opinion -- totally natural. The multi-cultis may and will continue to attempt to force everyone to miscegenate, and to divide and conquer. Do you know of black folks who would like to support black secession and a black nation state, with black cultural values?

Why not enter into discussions with white, native american and other secessionists; to create an international coalition of ethno-cultural groups who support secesion and self-determination for their ethno-cultural groups.

In short, where all ethno-cultures stay very, very far away from the genitals of other ethno-cultural groups!

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CREE-EIGHT Says:

November 27, 2011 at 5:49 pm
Very interesting commentary, Ms. Muhrrteyn.

My definition of “racism” appears in various posts on this blog and is follows:

Race = Race-ism = White Supremacy = the dominant socio-material system of the known universe in which each individual/independent person who classifies HIMSELF/HERSELF and is accepted as “white” unjustly subjects to him/her all persons that HE/SHE classifies as not white. These individual/independent persons are united in this ultimate purpose. This system operates in all areas of people activity including economics, education, entertainment, labor, law, politics, religion, sex, and war/health.

My definition for “justice” also appears in various posts on this blog and as is follows:

“Justice = the condition in which no one is mistreated AND in which the persons who need the most help receive the most help if any help is given.

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CREE-EIGHT Says:
November 27, 2011 at 5:49 pm

in answer to this question: “Racial preference for your own is — in my opinion — totally natural. The multi-cultis may and will continue to attempt to force everyone to miscegenate, and to divide and conquer. Do you know of black folks who would like to support black secession and a black nation state, with black cultural values?

Why not enter into discussions with white, native american and other secessionists; to create an international coalition of ethno-cultural groups who support secesion and self-determination for their ethno-cultural groups.

In short, where all ethno-cultures stay very, very far away from the genitals of other ethno-cultural groups!”

Here is the logic to me: The most powerful people on this planet under the global system of white supremacy, white people, do not need assistance from those they dominate to do what needs to be done.

I am not sure what you mean when you say “ethno-cultural group” or “secession.”

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Andrea Muhrrteyn Says:

November 28, 2011 at 4:54 am

“Race = Race-ism = White Supremacy = the dominant socio-material system of the known universe in which each individual/independent person who classifies HIMSELF/HERSELF and is accepted as “white” unjustly subjects to him/her all persons that HE/SHE classifies as not white. These individual/independent persons are united in this ultimate purpose. This system operates in all areas of people activity including economics, education, entertainment, labor, law, politics, religion, sex, and war/health.”

Your definition is very vague. By that I mean it uses allot of vague abstract terms, and no concrete terms. This means it is vulnerable to multiple interpretations, due to lack of clarity. The more clear you are, the less misinterpretations people have who sincerely try to understand what you are trying to say. (Concrete, Abstract, General & Specific Terms)

I interpret it as follows (is this a correct interpretation of what you mean?).

Any person who identifies as ‘white’ is a racist, simply cause they are born white, and because (in your opinion) the entire universe’s system is racist.

If htat is a correct interpretation of what you are saying, then basically it appears that you are saying there is nothing you, or any white person can do to not be a ‘racist’, because simply cause they are born with a white skin, that makes them a racist. Hence both whites and blacks are born in this ‘white racist’ prison, and there is fuck all anyone can do to try to not be a ‘racist’, so we may as all just not even try.

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Secession means for a group of people to secede from the dominant goverment. America was founded as America by secession. It is the foundational principle of your constitutional system of goverment.

An ethno-cultural group isany group of people who share a common ethnicity or culture, or both ethnicity and culture.

You may be surprised to find that there are many many different cultures within ‘white culture’. Simply because white people share the same skin colour, does not mean they belong to the same culture. Different white cultures may share similar cultural traits, but also have different cultural traits. Where sufficient differences occur, they belong to different cultures.

There are many white cultures that are discriminated against by the dominant ‘white liberal multiculti’ corporate culture, which would like to exterminate their non-corporate white cultures.

Surely if you really want to be free from white racism, you can do so by means of secession to establish your black nation, where there are no white people, thereby freeing you from white racism; you would wish to establish such a black nation where you can be free from white racism.

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Andrea Muhrrteyn Says:
November 28, 2011 at 5:06 am


“Justice = the condition in which no one is mistreated AND in which the persons who need the most help receive the most help if any help is given.

How do you define 'mistreated', because I am sure you would agree there are very different interpretations for 'mistreated'.

Those who need the most help, must receive the most help.

Its also very vague. Lets imagine there are two women: twins; and one decides to spread her legs and pop out illegitimate babies to dozens of fathers, and is consequently poverty stricken; while the other one studies to get an education, keeps her legs together and makes a firm decision, she will only have children once she has gotten a degree, gotten married, and her husband and she have saved up enough money to place such funds into a savings account for the childs education.

Lets say both these women come into your office for 'help'. The one wants food stamps which she says she needs to feed her children; which she never intends to repay, and if she has any spare money, she will use that to get drunk and pop out another child, so she can get more welfare. The other sister wants a loan to help her to go to college, which she insists she wants to pay back, because she does not want charity, she only wants to be helped to help herself.

If you can only help one of them; which one 'needs' the help most, and will use the help productively, honestly and honourably?

Has the one who chose to breed children like rabbits on viagra, made a conscious decision to MISTREAT HERSELF; while the other one has chosen to treat herself as worthy of respect.